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Forum Zone-2000 • View topic - Mt McKinley (Denali) 6194m, maj 2008

Mt McKinley (Denali) 6194m, maj 2008

Razgovori sa dozom adrenalina!

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Postby aida » 29 May 2008, 04:35

::blame the system::
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Postby nailovamater » 29 May 2008, 09:58

bolje odrat' tabane bježeći, nego umrijet' neodranih tabana!

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Postby sherpa » 29 May 2008, 12:29

Evo došlo je to značajnijih i konačnih odluka oko uspona. Kako ti Amerikanci žive u prošlom vremenu, zamislite kod njih je još 28 maj, a mi već uveliko savladavamo 29 maj, sinoć je(po naški) završena aklimatizacija. I donesena odluka:



Nažalost trojica iz zdravstvenih razloga odustaju od daljnjeg uspona: Sead Muminović, Senad Sadović i Fahir Demčović. Nakon aklimatizacije je odlučeno tako i iz sigurnosnih razloga jer nije nimalo naivno penjati uz led pri jako niskoj temperaturi, a uz veoma jak vjetar. Danas oni odlaze za Ankoridž. Da li će tamo čekati završetak ekspedicije ili ne, ne znam.

A Petar Pećanac, Basar Čarovac i Mirsad Janić odlaze danas u kamp 5 i ''nosimo sav teret što će nam otežati i ovako težak i opasan uspon. Ići ćemo polako i kada stignemo u C5 tamo pravimo logor, a onda sve ovisi od vremenskih uslova koliko ćemo da budemo u njemu.''
Oni procjenjuju po prognozi koju imaju da će to biti petak ili subota. Ali sa Denalijem nikad nisi načisto. O tom potom, kako rekoše, javiće mi se čim mognu.



Što se tiče Zoke, Gorana, Radmile i dvoje Amerikanaca kod njih je malo drugačije. A gdje su sada trenutno pokazuje hepek:

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Oni su isto jučer radili aklimatizaciju, a danas nose dio tereta, prvenstveno keš, do grebena poviše Headwall-a.
Ka C5 kreću tek u petak, jedan od razloga je i to što Goranu treba malo više aklimatizacije. I svi se osjećaju dobro.
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Postby nona » 29 May 2008, 21:50

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Postby sherpa » 30 May 2008, 00:37

Od prošle godine nije se Google baš proslavio sa ažuriranjem i dopunom karata. Odavno sam skinuo Earth sa kompa, koristim najnoviji portable, ne treba instalacija, ali osim novih điđi nema nešto značajnije novo. A Flay, pa to lako uradim i nakon gajbe pive. Baš vi sa sjevera volite noć, još ako traje 2 sata...
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Ali zato evo malo i nekih servisnih informacija, za primjer sam uzeo sliku sa Zokinog sajta gdje je taj spominjani Vince (možda fakat voli vince) napravio grešku:
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Teba da bude 14280 = 4.352m pa je:

Camp 1 7792' = 2.375m
Camp 2 9678' = 2.949m
Camp 3 10991' = 3.350m
Camp 4 14280' = 4.352m
Camp 5 17208' = 5.244m
Vrh 20322' = 6.194,1456m (za one koji vole mikrone, ja volim milione)

Ako vam ikada zatreba, a hoće, evo , za nekoliko sekundi ćete doznati kako pretvorit stope, pedlje i nokte u metre, centimetre i zanoktice.

A ako bi još voljeli znati i koliko je sati, baš sada i baš na Denaliju ili ako putujete iz Čekrčića na kraj svijeta, pa da ne bi zakaznili, jer kraj svijeta je samo jednom u životu.
Naštimano je kao osnova naše srednjeevropsko vrijeme (+1) za Denali je srednjealjasko, ili ako ćeš nešto drugo klikni na kartu svijeta pa ćeš saznati koje država je u kojoj vremenskoj zoni.
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Postby ters » 30 May 2008, 10:00

Ne razumijem kako im radi ovaj tracker. Da nisu bili zalutali?

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Postby nona » 30 May 2008, 10:02

Ja mislim da se radi o aklimatizaciji. Ili je vince ;-)
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Postby nailovamater » 30 May 2008, 10:03

možda su crtali spajalicu u snijegu :shock: šta odma tersučiš!
bolje odrat' tabane bježeći, nego umrijet' neodranih tabana!

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Postby sherpa » 30 May 2008, 10:20

Mada sam ateista moja omiljena poslovica je: Čovjek snuje, bog određuje. Nikada ne bude onako kako čovjek planira, možda u najboljem slučaju bude približno, a onda kasnije kaže, e ostvario sam ono što sam htio. Da li baš? Pošto ovakvo razmišljanje neminovno vuče dalje ka tome koliko slučaj određuje neke pravce, evo prekidam.

Svašta se izdogađalo od juče. Dva Japanca su poginula na usponu pa su tamo u ABC svi pomalo postali nesigurni.
Petrova ekipa je bila spremna da krene u jutro ali se vrijeme ujutro naglo pogoršalo. I odluče da ne idu, ali već iza podneva se vrijeme proljepšalo, samo tako, da ne može biti bolje. Ne čude onda razmišljanja Petrova: ''Čovjek nije pametan kome da vjeruje, prognozi ili svom osjećaju. Sutra krećemo pa šta nam bog da.''


E onda sam ja jutros morao ustati da idem u onu malu prostoriju i kada sam se vratio onako pospan, kliknem. I gle u njihovom šatoru sjede Zoka, Goran, Basko i Peki, piju čaj i dogovaraju se šta i kako dalje. Udružili se napokon. Pošaljem Zoki Materin savjet, stvarno: ''meni su uvijek govorili obuci se ako ti je hladno''. I rasterećene savjesti krenem da spavam...
...ali..
na Tarašu se Tito ukazuje proizvoljno, pa tako i meni stiže prosvetljenje, Sarajevo i Borac su bolji od Želje, jel' Chupo, isto kao što je u BL bolja metereološka služba nego u SA, pa im fino pošaljem prognozu, jest da su se malo raspitivali, ali bože moj.
A odgovor dođe odmah:''Šerpa, hvala ti puno na prognozi, to nam puno znači. Ti si dio našeg Summit tima, pošalji nam još i za subotu, jer to bi trebao da bude dan za vrh.''

Eto vidiš Feka, rimski položaj je zakon, ležiš a iđeš, tako ja upade u ekspediciju, bez svih onih folova, love, priprema i sl.
Nemojte me pitati kako znam prognozu, kao iskusni meteorolog pribjegao sam triku našeg zanata i pogledao kroz prozor,

Indijanci su posjekli svu šumu, nema ni klipe, dakle biće žestoko.
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Sead Muminović, Senad Sadović i Fahir Demčović, koji su odustali su već otišli niz brdo. Čim svane Petar i Basko namjeravaju da odmah idu u C5.
Nema nam Aide, otkako se Zoka dočepao stelitskog telefona, njegova žena ovdje nije logovana, ali čita ovo.
Sorry, bilo je jače od mene.
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Postby nona » 30 May 2008, 10:30

Onaj osjecaj za vrijeme... da nije kostobolja (reuma, isijas, skleroza... pih, ima hejbet tih instrumenata).
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Postby sherpa » 30 May 2008, 14:13

Onaj Vince samo hoda gore dolje, eto u dva dana kuda je švrljao, garant mamuran, možda je on jedan od onih što prekopava tuđe stvari, traži popravak:
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Ma možemo mu ovdje svašta govoriti i psovati, kada se vrati čovjek svakako neće ništa razumejti, a ako bude tražio od naših da mu prevedu oni će iz pristojnosti reći: ti se to spomonješ samo uzgred, to po Bosni hoda telal i viče - Vince, vince, crno i jeftino...

Ovog momenta je kod njih tri ujutro i isto petak, a kako je kod njih svanulo već treba da se spremaju ako misle ići u C5. Da li će?
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Postby aida » 30 May 2008, 15:15

::blame the system::
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