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obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby azdaha » 24 Aug 2010, 15:13

pozdrav svima,
Volio bih kad bi mi, clanovi zone foruma, mogli doci na jedan jedinstven stav o obiljezavanju planinskih vrhova a zatim ga kroz sluzbene i nesluzbene kanale pokusati implementirati u javnosti. Ovo pisam iz razloga sto su, kao i sve kod nas, i planine dosle pod prisilno prisvajanje na principu ova je moja a ona tamo tvoja. Prekrajaju se imena, postavljaju vjerska i nacionalna obiljezja... Mislim da je forum zone 2000 vec postao jedna planinarska snaga koja bi u skladu sa mogucnostima i uticajem njegovih clanova mogla dosta toga doprinjeti u temi i realizaciji obiljezavanja planinskih vrhova.
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby jemo » 26 Aug 2010, 15:59

ne javlja se niko...a kakva je praksa, ako je uopšte ima, po svijetu i inostranstvu?
da li je to državno neko obilježje ili možda grb pl.saveza zemlje ili...?
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby StoMiNedaMojNadimak » 26 Aug 2010, 16:14

Po Alpama stavljaju križeve.

ja bih se, kao prvi prijedlog, izjasnio za moj stav: kamena piramida visine cca 1m sa oznakom visine. U tom slučaju nebi dolazilo do dilema oko jezika, naziva, pripadnosti i sl.
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby nailovamater » 26 Aug 2010, 17:33

egipcani i visocaci su za :happy
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby Anes » 26 Aug 2010, 22:30

točenu pivu na svaki vrh i niko se ne bi bunio koja je :-D
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby StoMiNedaMojNadimak » 26 Aug 2010, 22:35

Moj Anese, koliko bi vrhova ostalo neosvojeno ramazanom! Falilo mi deset metara.

A da na Mont Blanc-u nije piva na vrhu pa ovi naši odustali namjerno?
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby nona » 26 Aug 2010, 22:38

Obiljezavanje vrhova trigonometrijskim oznakama bila je potreba, dosta vrhova ima neke metalne komade koji geometrima nesto znace. Danas, cini mi se, vise nema potrebe za tim, jer cak i chupo i chupko imaju gps hepeke pa nema razloga ceprkat i nagrdjivat vrhove "geometrijom".
Druga je stvar ako neko hoce da obiljezi vrh iz nekih drugih pobuda. Razlozi su najcesce simbolicke prirode, sto se u najnovijem zargonu prevodi sa "zapishavanje". Meni se cini da je vise tog "smrada" dosta, vrhvi se moraju sacuvati od nagrdjivanja (ukljucujuci i nagrdjivanje autenticnih imena novokomponovanim potrebama).
Inace, ako vec mora, ovo s kamenom piramidom mi se nesto plaho svidja, ekoloski, razgradivo, autenticno... dodjes na vrh, uzmes kamen, pozelis nesto i stavis na piramidu. Kud ce bolja simbolika. (A za koje desetljece eto i kuce na vrhu, jelde, Jemo)
Ako je potrebno nesto posebno (radi slikanja), nek okolina i pozadina budu taj "dokaz" (a i svi neki dokazi su ugavnom radi drugih, a ne radi sebe samog, sto se malo sudara sa nekim 'vamo vrijednostima)
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby chupo » 26 Aug 2010, 22:39

e bogami kad smo motika , matera i ja bili gore
popila se nikšićka piva....bila dobra k'o sarajevska :cool:
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby azdaha » 27 Aug 2010, 00:20

potpisujem sto je nona naprijed rekao, prije par dana sam citao crnogorski zakon o planinskim stazama, sve je precizno navedeno, ko, sta, koliko, kada... mada se ogranicava na staze, ali vecina staza vodi na vrh pa se zna ko je onda za njega tako reci odgovoran...

moj prijedlog, kamena piramida, ime vrha, visina, i jos zadatak za svakog clana zone foruma da u svojoj sredini, medju planinarima insistira na jednostavnosi, i bez "zapishavanja", sto nona rece.
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby nona » 27 Aug 2010, 09:27

Ako postoji neka nasa (planinarska) potreba da se vrh obiljezi onda je to radi orjentacije. Haj' da se dogovorimo kako, pa da to propagiramo.
Ne znam da li je PS ikad imao neke smjernice u vezi oznacavanja vrhova. Ne sjecam se nekih ideja ili "rasprava" u vezi toga.
Ovo sto je Clifffhanger pokazao, slicnog je bilo i kod nas, vjerovatno jos na nekim vrhovima cuce slicne oznake ciji je oblik i sadrzaj propisala drzava. Zbog toga sto se tesko slikat uz to (sindrom "dokaza", "samom sebi ne vjerujem"), "planinari" predjose na "visoka" obiljezja koja su eskalirala u "zapishavanje" i trajnu devastaticu prostora vrha.

Kad neko krene sa markiranjem puta, logicno je da u istom "tonu" ili "duhu" zavrsi na vrhu (iskljucivo da bi se zadovoljila ta orjentacijska začkoljica, ništa više). Kako, a da se izbjegne bilo kakvo ostecivanje, da to bude uredno i prepoznatljivo svima (crncima, japancima, indijancima, kaurima, maorima... ). Ja bih najradije vidio drvene "medije" iz puno razloga. Pa kako je marka jedinstvena za sve "nase narode i narodnosti", i ta bi oznaka vrha mogla da bude jedinstvena.
Kontam najbolje "visoko" rjesenje je kako su predlagali u Visokom, piramida od drveta, ev' sa'ću nacrtat. Pa dokle može, može. Možda i čika grom malo ohane, on više voli metalne zastave i stubove.
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby nona » 27 Aug 2010, 10:28

Piramida:

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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby nona » 27 Aug 2010, 10:32

A ovako to rade u Africi, zemlji "javova i tigjova". Ekoloski, biorazgradivo...

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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby chupo » 27 Aug 2010, 10:41

sjooo nona jesi je nacrtao :lol: -+
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Re: obiljezavanje planinskih vrhova

Postby nailovamater » 27 Aug 2010, 11:56

ja najvolim obilježiti vrh nekolicinom piva. ako je kakav značajniji, obilježi se i rotacijom janjeta. sve, naravno bez vjerskih i inih predznaka*.

*osim možda polariteta janjeta (priča se da od toga zavisi kvalitet mesa)
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