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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby prenj » 21 Jul 2010, 12:30

Tiho Golijanin, covjek koji ih trazi
kaze da su se izgubili na putu od Sustavca do Trnova!!
. .tako da je uzalud nagadjati. .zato nisam djaba spominjao
Meždra (kad se krene prema Rajskom dolu (ocito je da su skrenuli s makadama, inace ne bi zalutali), lako se moze u Meždra zalutati ako nisi planinar,a tamo nema signala!

Zatim, Tiho ne pominje da su bili dio neke grupe. Momak je s Dobrinje I, ocito s priajteljem dosao samo do Sustavca i krenuli nazad!
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby prenj » 21 Jul 2010, 12:56

Ponovo sam zvao predsjednika (Tihu Golijanina) Treskavica Trnovo.

Momci su dosli na Sustavac (nisu planinari), popili dvoguzu pive i krenuli nazad.
Naravno, skrenuli su prema Rajskom dolu. Kad se sidje u onaj usjek,
gdje se naglo ide lijevo, tu su ga zglajzali i otisli prema Dobropolju.
Imali su jos uvijek signala.
U 4:45 su se rastali (!!!????) dakle najveca glupost. .
kod momka koji je zalutao baterija je vec bila crkla. .
kad su se rastali, momak koji je ovo ispricao, je stigao u Dobropolje,
a ovaj drugi, eto, za njim se i dalje traga.

Cak su sjedili pred zoru na šahtu!! ( Tiho zna gdje je taj šaht))
da su samo tad nazvali nekog (tad je bilo signala i bile pune baterije)
i cekali da ih pokupe na tom šahtu. .al' jok, panika, "idemo dalje, naci cemo put"
ne znajuci da idu u suprotnom pravcu

naravno da sam pitao, zasto su se rastali, jesu li se posvadjali, ego i ostalo, ono "sta ti znas, kad ja znam da je ovamo". .
Tiho mi je odgovorio da ovaj momak nece nista opsirnije da govori. .

Trenutno je ekipa spasioca na obroncima Treskavice prema Dobropolju.
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Anes » 21 Jul 2010, 14:52

uvijek je kasno kad se izgubi život ! mnogi su ubjeđenja da sami mogu sve ali..prošli vikend dvoje čeha pošli sa rujišta na prenj, nikome se nisu javili nego su pukim slučajem nabasali na našeg kolegu koji ima vikendicu na početnom dijelu staze za b. vode ! zašto se nikom nisu javili na pitanje odgovoriše, znamo mi put opisao im neki planinar iz sarajeva preko telefona !da li znate da dio staze prolazi kroz mine oni samo slegnuše ramenima i nastaviše !! treba nešto rigorozno poduzeti na večem nivou da se ovakve stvari ne bi dešavale !! odeš vani na neku planinu samo još što ti ne uzmu i broj cipela, tako i treba !!
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Belma » 21 Jul 2010, 18:26

gdje ti to uzimaju broj cipela? ;) ja sam bas hodala posvuda i niko me nikad nije pitao za bilo kakve podatke niti se bilo kome igdje moras javiti.... planine su slobodne i otvorene za slobodne ljude, taman se svaki put moras javljati svakom zivom.. dovoljno da tebi bliski prijatelji - po mogucnosti planinari znaju

a ova situacija na Treski je krajnje cudna.... no valjda ce se razrjesiti
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Anes » 21 Jul 2010, 23:29

pa na primjer kad sam išao na m. blan, u dolomite, ne znam kakva korist što je neko iz npr. češke rekao svojim prijateljima makar ga oni i bili iz nekog našeg mjesta !! u ostalom , stare planinarske knjižice su imale i kodeks ponašanja koje danas mnogi ne poštuju !!
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Belma » 22 Jul 2010, 07:55

Prenj ipak nije Mont Blanc, mada se ni u većem dijelu Alpa ne trebaš nikome javljati..... kada se ide u ove niže planine (ispod 3000m) očekuje se sloboda ponašanja u smislu javljanja, a i u drugim "smislovima" ukoliko se ne radi o Nacionalnom parku (što se kod nas očito nikada neće desiti)

važno je da neko (skoro bilo ko, mada je jednostavnije ako je planinar) zna da si u planini.... jer recimo, oni bi svojim prijateljima javili problem, a onda bi se prijatelji dalje angažovali da im dođe potrebna pomoć..

kad smo već kod mina, koji to dio staze prolazi kroz minsko polje? a koji ne prolazi? ;)
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby sascha » 22 Jul 2010, 09:53

Evo našli dio potkošulje.
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby nailovamater » 22 Jul 2010, 11:38

bolje odrat' tabane bježeći, nego umrijet' neodranih tabana!

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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Anes » 22 Jul 2010, 13:05

odgovor samo na zadnje pitanje, od srušenog doma u vilinom klancu vodi staza kroz šumu uz klanac i označena je žutim trakama do izlaska u prvi dol, sa strane staze imaju table sa oznakama "MINE " ali ti nemoj iči tuda nego idi cestom od čatrnje !!pozz. završajem sa ovim !!!!!
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Belma » 22 Jul 2010, 13:26

već sam išla tom stazom više puta (čak i po noći), savršeno označena minska polja.... no ona se komotno može zaobići.. pitanje je bilo još - gdje mina nema? ;)

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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby nailovamater » 22 Jul 2010, 14:09

zna li se šta je sa medvjedom :roll:
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby Armin » 22 Jul 2010, 14:39

Ma treba nalupati i Škobu i jarana, a i međeda što plaši uživaoce lakih droga ...
Edmund Burke: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing"
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby nailovamater » 22 Jul 2010, 14:47

pitanje je od čega su medvjedu crvene oči :roll:
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Re: Kad neko zivot izgubi, bice kasno!

Postby SenadR » 22 Jul 2010, 16:40

Da nije u pitanju 'Brokeback Mountain? , ko zna sta se sve desavalo na tom sahtu a da tiho nije upoznat.
Ovo je slucaj kojim se trebalo pozabaviti drustvo za zastitu zivotnija :roll:
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