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spasavanje 5 osoba sa Javornika

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Postby nailovamater » 12 Jan 2009, 14:40

bolje odrat' tabane bježeći, nego umrijet' neodranih tabana!

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Postby dabar » 12 Jan 2009, 14:58

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Postby penjac » 12 Jan 2009, 21:50

Hajde drago mi je da je ovakva tema dosla na ovaj forum! Naime iza ovog nika se nalazi načelnik Gorske službe spasavanja Stanica Sarajevo, Adnan Podžo. Na neki način osječam se prozvanim ispred pomenute službe, a vezano za obavještavanje i neodazivanje u pomoč nastradalim u planini. Naša služba ne bira i ne analizira uslove pod kojim se desila neka nesreča, nego na poziv pokreče cjelokupnu akciju. Naime svjedoci smo slicne akcije prosle zime i ljudi koji su zameteni snjeznim padavimama ostali u pl.domu Hrasnicki stan, koji su ujedno svjedoci nasih aktivnosti u pruzanju sto adekvatnije pomoci.
Vezano konkretno za ovaj slucaj, pozivam sve koji su bili direktni akteri ovih desavanja (bez babskih prica i prica rekla kazala) da se obrate na brojeve telefona nase stanice 061 272 883 i 061 299 443. odgovorno tvrdim da na ove brojeve nije dosao nijedan poziv za pmoc vezano za ovaj slucaj. P.u. Trnovo posjeduje ove brojeve kao i sve druge P.U. na teritoriji Kantona Satajevo, tako da procedura zvanicnog obavjestavanja postoji. U razloge zbog kojih mi nismo obavjesteni ja necu da ulazim. Ako postoje sumne i tvrdnje u suprotno (tj. da je ova sluzba obajestena i pozvana u pomoc) veoma se lako mogu dobiti materijalni dokazi u vidu telefonskog listinga broja sa kojeg je navodno pozivana GSS Stanica Sarajevo.

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Postby prenj » 12 Jan 2009, 23:06

Pozdrav Penjacu!

I prije je bilo ovakvih tema. Drago nam je da se oglasio neko
iz GSS Stanica Sarajevo.
Procitali smo ponovo, sve sto je na ovom postu napisano.
Penjac je rekao svoje i hvala mu.
Red bi sad bio da navedeni Semir Durić i svi oni koji misle da su zvali GSS Stanicu Sarajevo potvrde svoje izjave.
Nije red blatiti nekog bez valjanog razloga i bez potrebe.

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Postby penjac » 12 Jan 2009, 23:53

Prije svega (sto sam zaboravio gore) da pozdravi sve ljude, posjetioce ovog web-a, dobrih namjera. Obečavam svima uključenim u ovu diskusiju da ću u toku sutrašnjeg dana (utorak) kontaktirati P.U. Trnovo i dobiti informacije o tome kad je poziv dosao u navedenu stanicu, koga su oni kontaktirali i zasto dežurni policajci nisu kontaktirali GSS.
Takođe ću kontaktirati štampane medije( Oslobođenje-Dragan Pavlović) i provjeriti porijeklo informacije da su upučeni pozivi za pomoč GSS-u zanemareni od strane ove službe.
Naravno o svemu ću podrobno izvjestiti sve koji su u ovoj diskusiji.

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Postby haris » 13 Jan 2009, 10:28

Svakako bi bilo dobro doci no prave informacije i ispitati slucaj. To mora biti u interesu prozvanim sluzbama. Nije bitno da li je u ovom slucaju bilo spasavanje ili nesto drugo. Lanac obavjestavanja mora funkcionisati.
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Postby dabar » 13 Jan 2009, 11:13

ma ja sam siguran da bi se oni potrudili da obavjeste sve sluzbe, pa cak i oforme novu, da je trebalo ici negdje... zavlaciti se, izvlaciti, nositi... i da je bilo nesto vecih razmjera
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Postby haris » 13 Jan 2009, 14:02

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Postby penjac » 13 Jan 2009, 23:19

Kao sto sam obecao počeo sam provjeravati ovaj slucaj. Tako sam stupio u konatkt sa policajcem Harisom Mizdrakom (jutros oko 9.10 sati) i dobio sljedece informacije. Niko iz p.u. Trnovo nije kontaktirao GSS Stanicu Sarajevo, sto je i potvrdilo moje riječi. Samog Harisa je pozvao komandir i dao mu zadatak da krene u izvlačenje ljudi. Haris mi je takođe rekao još neke informacije koje ću objaviti kada ih provjerim kod samih aktera. Nažalost još nisam uspio doći do osoba koje su bile predmet spasavanja ali ću i to nastojati u narednih par dana. Takođe novinari iz oslobođenja i avaza su mi danas bili van kontakta. i ovo sljedi u narednim danima.

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Postby haris » 13 Jan 2009, 23:43

samo nastavi sa provjerom informacija, vec prva informacija da komandir daje zadatak policajcu, a u medjuvremenu ne zove druge sluzbe ukazuje na totalno nepoznavanje i nedostatak protokala u ovavim slucajevima. Mislim da biste se trebali nakon skupljenih svih informacija oglasiti u javnim medijima. Svakako nas obavjestavaj o novim saznanjima.
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Postby penjac » 14 Jan 2009, 00:42

Naravno, iako i meni nije jasno zasto nisu zvali jer su mi i jutros potvrdili da posjeduju brojeve i da smo mi prva sluzba koju bi zvali da su smatrali za shodno. Svakako po prikupljanju informacija da će ici i demanti u onim medijima u kojima je i objavljeno
nadam se da cu to uspijeti zavrsiti u ovoj sedmici (pored redovnih patrola na skijalistu).

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Postby Armin » 14 Jan 2009, 09:33

Hebiga, sad je GSS na forumu - sta cemo s Dabrom? ;-)
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Postby nailovamater » 14 Jan 2009, 10:35

bolje odrat' tabane bježeći, nego umrijet' neodranih tabana!

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Postby esref von dobrinja » 14 Jan 2009, 13:52

Sto smo manje aktivni to vise planova imamo!
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